对话美国前NBA球星，分享职业篮球的苦与乐 | 饶舜英语访谈
本期嘉宾
本期看点：
1、NBA球员典型的训练日是怎样的？
2、NBA球员他们的饮食是怎样的？
3、NBA球员如何在职业和家庭中寻找平衡？
4、NBA球员退役后的生活又是怎样的？
5、NBA球员拥有怎样的现实机遇和挑战？
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饶舜英文访谈
Welcome to AllenTalk.
今天做客我们节目的嘉宾是我们的老朋友
Today, we have with us our old friend
前美国NBA的明星 詹姆斯?唐纳森先生
Mr. James Donaldson, former NBA star
您好 詹姆斯
Hi, James
谢谢 你好
Thank you. Hello, hello.
很高兴见到你 我的朋友
Good to see you, my friend.
上次 我们播出了我们的访谈以后
Last time, once we aired our interview,
得到了一些观众的反馈和评价
we got some feedbacks, comments from our viewers.
他们对NBA职业球员的训练特别感兴趣
They are particularly interested in, you know, professional NBA player’s training day.
您能跟我们说说吗
Can you share your experience with us
NBA球员典型的训练日是怎样的
What is a typical NBA players’ training day like?
对 我记得很清楚
Oh yeah, good, good, I remember well.
太好了
Ok, good, good.
我们想知道他们几点起床？
We’d love to know. When do they get up?
白天做什么 甚至吃什么？
And what do they do in the daytime? What do they eat even?
行 行
That’s right, that’s right.
能跟我们观众说说吗？
Can you tell our audience about that?
你们要惊讶了 NBA每天的平均训练时间只有两小时
Surprisingly, the average NBA practice is only about two hours, ok.
只有两小时?
Only two hours?
只有两小时
Only two hours.
和其他队友打篮球？
Playing basketball with other teammates?
对 在篮球场跑来跑去
Yes, on the basketball court and you’re running up and down,
打球 练习 训练
you’re playing, you’re practicing, you’re training,
可是一个真正的职业球员
But, you know, a real professional
会提前一小时 甚至两小时到训练场
gets to the practice facility maybe an hour early, two hours early,
因为你需要做一些准备 提前热身
because you have to prepare, you have to get your body ready to go,
做拉伸练习 有时需要准备胶带
stretching, exercise, if you need some tape,
如果有伤病的话则需要医疗护理
medical attention to something that’s been bothering you.
有运动治疗师
They have athletic trainers there.
训练一般是上午十点开始
So, practice normally starts at about am.
上午十点 - 上午十点
10 am. - 10 am.
两小时的话就是十点到十二点
Two hours from 10 am to 12.
对 训练从十点到十二点
10 to 12 is when the practice is going.
那训练结束后他们做什么呢
What else do they do after the training?
一般是十二点结束
After it, which is finished at 12 usually,
然后就是伤病治疗的时间
then there’s time for treatment for injuries
知道吗 我比赛期间膝盖 腿部都有严重的伤病
because you know, I had some serious injuries when I played, my knee, my leg.
手指到现在都还有问题
My fingers are still not fixed.
天啊 我看到了 您可以给个镜头特写
Oh, I see it. Maybe you can show it to the camera.
手指被这样扭过去 就成这样了
Your fingers get twisted up and that’s what happens.
运动员受伤是不可避免的
So, athletes have many injuries, they have to…
如果希望职业生涯长一点的话
If you’re gonna be having a long career,
就要照顾好自己
you have to be able to take care of yourself.
嗯 明白
Yup, I see.
当然了 我们有治疗师 医生 现场有各种人
Of course, we have trainers, we have doctors, we have everybody at practice.
某些特定种类的理疗...
Like therapy in certain...
特别是冷疗和热疗
Therapy especially for ice or heat.
比如说按摩 现场就有按摩师
You know, things like that, massage,there’s massage therapist now at practice,
所以一般训练后一两个小时
and so usually for one or two hours after practice,
球员们还在训练场
the players are still at the practice facility,
接受治疗 休息放松
they are getting treatment, they are resting,
可能还会在训练场吃午饭
they are maybe having some lunch at thepractice facility.
最后回家一般都是下午两点
By the time they finally get home, it’s two o’clock,
两点半左右了
2：30 or something like this in the afternoon.
明白了
I see.
所以一天事情很多 从上午十点到下午两点半
So it’s a long day, 10 from to 14：30
练习 训练 做准备 每一天都如此
of practice, training and preparation,every single day.
那饮食呢 NBA球员一般有没有特别食谱？
What about diet? Is there like a special diet that NBA players usually have?
嗯 有
Yeah, yup.
现在大部分NBA球队都有现场厨师
Nowadays most of NBA teams have a chef, a chef that will be at practice.
自己的厨师吗？
Their own chef?
嗯 自己的厨师
Their own chef.
厨师会到现场
So the chef will come to practice
为球员准备训练后的午餐
and prepare the lunch after practice for the players
训练结束后 如果你有特殊要求
OK, so after practice, you have a special request,
想吃三文鱼 想吃鸡肉 想吃烤牛排
you want salmon, you want chicken, you want roast beef, whatever.
无论什么厨师都能为你准备
The chef will make this especially for you.
明白
I see.
有没有那种食物或食谱
Are there any like a certain food or certain cuisines
有哪些是NBA球员不能吃的？
that NBA players shall stay away from?
或者没有这种规定或要求 吃什么都行？
Or there’s no such regulations or requirements, and anything is fine?
任何东西都能吃 只要有节制就行
Well, everything is fine in moderation.
有节制 任何食物只要不过量就行
In moderation, ha-ha. As long as you don’t eat too much of anything.
这是关键
That’s the key.
好的
Ok.
不过当然了 如果你饮酒过量
But of course, if you drink too much,
摄入过多酒精 那就成问题了
too much alcohol, that’s gonna be a problem;
如果你抽烟 那也是个问题
if you smoke, that’s gonna be a problem.
如果你服用过量止痛片 药物 那也是问题
If you take too many pain-killer,medication pills, that’s gonna be a problem.
所以 所有东西都要非常谨慎地监控关注
So, everything has to be really carefully monitored and paid attention to.
所以厨师的任务就是制作营养均衡的餐饮
And that’s the chef’s job to have a balanced meal.
厨师的任务是制作营养均衡的餐饮
The chef’s job to have a balanced meal,
教练的任务是做好一切服务 调理好运动员的身体
the trainer’s job is to make sure that the athlete has everything he needs
让他以最佳的状态迎接明天甚至后天的训练
to make his body ready to go for tomorrow and the next day,
因为每一天我们都要训练 所以每天都需要教练
cause this is every single day, wepractice, we train everyday.
每一天？没有周末吗？
Everyday, without weekends?
周末也不例外
Even on weekends.
周六 周日 就连圣诞节 新年
Saturdays and Sundays, even on Christmasdays, New Year’s day,
都要练习和训练
you are practicing and training.
这是对球队的承诺 必须做到
This is your commitment to the team, and you have to do this.
我打了这么多年比赛 一直在练习和训练
So, you know, I played for all those years and I practiced and trained
所以没有像一般人一样的规律作息时间
and so you don’t have a regular schedule like normal people.
一般人的工作朝九晚五
Normal people go to work from 9 to 5,
然后回家跟家人共进晚餐
and then they come back home and have a dinner with the family.
而运动员... 不 运动员的家人就是球队
An athlete, no, athlete is, the family is the team.
球队就是你的家人
Em, the team is your family.
球队就是家人 没错
The team is your family, yes.
和队友一起训练 和队友一起吃饭
And so you train with the team, you eat with the team,
和队友一起旅行 都以球队为出发来思考问题
you travel with the team, you think as together as a team.
这就是作为球队一员的意义所在
This is part of being on a team.
如果你跟球队在一起的时间太长
Wow, if you spend too much time with the team,
那还有空闲的时间陪家人吗？
Will you have some spare time, you know, to be with your family?
一般来讲 你必须要有理解支持你的家人
Well, typically, you have to make sure you have a family that understands.
对
Aha, yes.
放在第一位的是你对球队的承诺
Your first commitment is gonna be to the team.
明白
I see.
因为打NBA的时候 我们常常出差
Because also the NBA, we travel a lot.
因为竞争很激烈 对吧
Because the competition is fierce, right?
当然
Sure.
如果你没有这样的投入
If you don’t have such a commitment
而其他所有人却都很投入
and everyone else is having such a commitment,
那你就很容易被甩在后面了
you can be easily get left behind.
对 的确如此 你会很快就被甩在后面了
Yes, absolutely! You get left behind very quickly.
你不希望这种事发生
So you don’t want that to happen,
那你必须非常投入
then you have to really have this kind of commitment.
是的
Yes
就像我提到的 在NBA 我们常常出差
As I mentioned, in the NBA, we travel a lot
因为每个赛季有八十二场比赛
because there are 12 games in the season.
八十二场 主场打四十一场
So, 41 games at home,
还有四十一场就要到外地去打
41 games on the road outside travel.
明白 全美各地
I see, all around in America.
对 就是要出差
Yeah, you might travel.
比如说 我在西雅图打球时
When I played at Seattle for instance,
就得出差去纽约
we had to travel to New York maybe,
可能还要南下去达拉斯 还要去亚特兰大
maybe down to Dallas, maybe over to Atlanta.
有很多是长途飞行 要飞四五个小时
There are many long flights, 4 or 5-hour flight.
不过现在NBA有私人飞机了
But now, you know, the NBA teams have private jets.
都是非常漂亮的私人飞机
They are beautiful, beautiful private jets.
腿部空间超级宽敞 大大的座椅
Much much leg room, big seats,
好多食物 非常非常舒适
a lot of food, very very comfortable.
这能让球员们保持充沛的精力 得到休息
That keeps the athletes refreshed, and rested,
等他们到达下一个城市时
and when they get to the next city,
就能准备好比赛
they can be ready to play the game.
真是太棒了
Very good.
职业生涯有点像职场上的一场竞赛
Professional career is kind of like a race in the professional field.
现在 很多人都在讨论两种竞赛
Right now, there are many people talking about two races,
一种在职场 另一种在个人赛场
one is in the professional field, the other one is in the personal field.
那么以您的个人经验
Right, so in your personal experience,
能跟我们说说吗 如何能同时赢得这两场竞赛？
can you tell us how can we win in both races?
嗯 好的
Yup, yup.
我还要强调一下 关键就在于平衡
Again, I think it comes down to balance.
你必须确保自己
You have to make sure you have a balance
在职场生活和个人生活之间找到平衡
between your professional life and your personal life.
很多人陷入困境 就是因为失去了平衡
A lot of people get into trouble because it becomes out of balance.
对 这很难
Yeah, it’s hard.
说来容易 做起来难 对吧？
It’s easier said than done, right?
对对对
Yup, yup, yup.
其实 暂时的失衡没事
Now, for a short time, it’s OK to be out of balance
如果是因为你可能真的非常专注于工作
because you might really be focusing, concentrating on your career.
只要你的家人能理解你就可以
As long as you have a family that understands you.
对 必须要有他们的理解 是的
Yeah, they have to understand. That’sright.
或者男女朋友要理解
Or a girlfriend who understands, or a boyfriend that understands.
或是太太
Or a wife.
或是丈夫
Or a husband.
他们必须要理解 这只是暂时的
They have to understand that this is a short time.
我必须全身心地投入 专注专注再专注
I’m gonna focus, focus, focus.
然后等我过了这段专注期
And when I finish my focus
我就会回来 而且找到更好的平衡
and then I can come back to be more balanced, ok?
对任何职业来说都是一样的
And that’s true for any professional.
医生这个问题也很严重
Doctors have a big problem,
全是工作 没有私人生活
all professional, no personal.
律师 商人 金融人士
Attorneys, lawyers, businessmen, finance people,
只顾工作 几乎顾不上私人生活 他们也有类似问题
all professional, very little personal, and they have problems like this.
嗯
Yup.
运动员也是一样的
Athletes are the same way.
所以对于运动员来说 我们必须确保周围都是良友
So, for athletes, we have to make sure we surround ourselves with good friends,
给我们支持 理解我们
good support, people who understand what we’re going through.
在NBA 一旦赛季结束 我们有两个月假期
Once the season is over, in the NBA, we get two months off.
那挺不错
That’s good.
可以这么说 如果打进季后赛了
So well, I should say, if you make the play-offs,
那么就得一直打到六月
then you’ll keep playing until June.
如果没有打进季后赛 那四月比赛就结束了
If you don’t make the play-offs, you finish in April.
所以说 球队表现差也有差的好处
Ok, so, I guess there’s a benefit if you have a bad team.
可以早早结束比赛回家了
You finish early.
对 凡事都有好的一面 对吧
Yup, you have to look on the bright side of everything, right?
凡事有利有弊
The pros and cons in everything.
对 没错
That’s right, that’s right.
这也是NBA退役球员
That’s also something like the retired NBA players
或者前运动员能给到学生运动员们的建议
or former athletes can give this kind of advice to student athletes.
这是这些学生毕业后将会面对的问题
This is something they are going to be facing after they graduate.
是的 他们绝对会面对的
They will, they will definitely be facing it.
所以再次说明 如果没有亲身经历过
And again, nobody really knows what that is about
没有人能知道 当职业运动员究竟是怎样的体验
except for a former athlete who’s been there and done that.
那个... 我不知道你是否清楚
There is... I don’t know if you know,
其实职业运动员的离婚率非常高
but there is a very high divorce rate for professional athletes as well,
因为他们的生活不平衡
because their life is not balanced.
全是工作 几乎没有私人生活
It’s all professional, very little personal.
如果你没有私人生活 不能陪伴妻小
And if you don’t have a personal life to share with your wife, your children,
那么到了一定时候 你就会失去他们
well, at some point, you won’t have them.
会产生裂缝 很糟糕 但这种事常常发生
There will be a separation, so it’s too bad but that happens quite a bit.
医生 律师 商人也是如此
Well, but it also happens with doctors, lawyers, business people.
明白
I see.
所以对那些年轻人 学生运动员来说
So, as for those, for young people, student athletes,
他们最好能在将来避免这些问题
they’d better try to avoid them in the future.
从前运动员们那里得到建议
Then get advice from former athletes.
对 没错 很对
That’s right. That’s right, that’s right.
我很早就认识到
You know, I learned early that, you know,
要成为学生运动员 我需要牺牲许多东西
all the things that I was sacrificing to be a student athlete,
我在华盛顿州立大学上学时
you know, when I went to the university,Washington State University,
我周围所有的朋友都会去参加派对
all my friend go out to the party
每周四 周五 周六 周日的晚上 每天晚上
every Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sundaynight, every night.
几乎夜夜笙歌
Almost every night.
几乎夜夜笙歌
Almost every night, you know.
但是因为我要训练
But because I was training,
因为我想要成为真正优秀的学生运动员
because I wanted to be a real good student athlete,
我没有参加那些派对
I didn’t go to the parties.
我没有跟他们一样喝得昏天黑地
I didn’t go and drink drink drink like they were doing.
因为我知道 如果我成了真正的运动员
Because I knew that if I became an athlete,
这样的机会还会有 不会消失
all those opportunities would still be there. They’re not going away.
没错
Exactly!
只要我想去 还是有派对可以参加
There are still parties I can go to, even now, if I want to.
甚至更好的派对 将来能参加更好的派对
Even better ones. There’d be better ones in the future.
更好的派对 没错 甚至更好的
Even better ones. That’s right, even better.
所以 您留着以后去参加
So you saved those for the future.
没错
That’s right.
我们真正能提供的就是 好的建议
So you know, I think what we can really provide is the advice,
前运动员们的亲身经历 教给学生运动员们
the real experience of the former athletes working with the student athletes,
不断地鼓励他们
continue to encourage them.
这是值得牺牲的 但你必须做出牺牲
That is worth the sacrifice, but you gotta sacrifice.
对
Yup.
需要为之付出代价 而你必须付出
You know, it’s a price to pay, but you gotta pay it.
没有汗水就没有收获
No pain, no gain.
的确如此
That’s exactly right.
苦尽甘来
Pain past is pleasure.
对 说到点子上了
Yeah, there we go.
我喜欢这个成语 很对 千真万确
I like that, I like that, yup, that’s very true. Very true.
好的
Good
你在学生运动员时期所做出的一切牺牲
So all the sacrifice you make when you are a student athlete,
将来都会有所回报
it will pay off in the future.
是的
It will.
哪怕就算你没有成为职业运动员
Even if you don’t become a profession alathlete,
只要你从大学毕业 就会得到回报
it’ll still pay off, if you graduate from college.
太对了
Yup, yup exactly!
因为你手里已经有了敲门砖
With that ticket in your hand.
年轻人不懂
Young people don’t understand
一张大学文凭能带给他们多广阔的发展空间
how much further ahead a college degree puts them.
这是没有大学文凭的学生
Here is a student with no college degree,
这是有大学文凭的学生
here is a student with a college degree.
没错 两者的机会有天壤之别
Exactly. The opportunities, there’s a huge difference.
对 没有大学文凭的学生能做什么
Yup. The student without a college degree, what can you do?
什么也做不了
Nothing.
做不了多少
Not much.
对 做的很少
Not much, very little.
而在上面这位呢 则有很大的潜力
This one up here, the potential is huge.
对 哪怕你还是学生运动员时
Exactly, so even though you are still a student athlete,
就必须未雨绸缪
you have to think ahead of the time.
对 没错
Yes, exactly.
最好做好两手准备
You’d better have both ready in your hands.
对对对
Right, right, right.
所以这就是我们的工作
So that’s what we’re working on,
这就是过去六个月以来我一直在做的事
that’s what I’ve been doing for the last six months.
我们会在美国启动项目 做好准备
You know, we’ll start everything inAmerica, get ready to go
并希望能把项目带到中国来
and hopefully, we can bring it over to China.
太好了 这是一个很有意义的项目
That’s good, a very meaningful project.
能帮助中国的很多年轻学生
It can really help lots of young students
特别是年轻的学生运动员
especially young student athletes in China.
我们知道您乐于助人 喜欢帮助别人
We know you are very helpful person, you love to help people.
必须的
We have to.
我们还会告诉观众
We can also tell the audience
如果他们有任何问题 需求 意见
if they have any questions, requirements, comments,
请畅所欲言
please feel free to leave your comments.
将来 我们还有机会能再见到詹姆斯 对吧？
We have the chance to really keep seeing James in the future, right?
太好了
Great. Great.
那么在结束前 您还有什么想跟我们观众说吗？
So, before we finish up here, any other words you’d like to say to our audience?
我很高兴看到 当今中国社会
I’m very happy to see that now in the Chinese community
越来越多的家长开始意识到
more and more parents are understanding the value of having a student
一位学生既学习好 又体育好的重要性
who is also a good student but also athletic as well,
很好地平衡两者
the balance between the two:
拥有健壮的头脑 健壮的体魄
A strong healthy mind, a strong healthy body.
这样的学生长大后会更加成功
And these students will become even more and more successful as they get older,
他们有机会上大学 去海外留学
the opportunity to go to college, the opportunity to study abroad,
还有学习英语
the opportunity to learn English.
今天的年轻人拥有我们年轻时未曾有过的
There’re all kind of great opportunities for young people now
各种大好机会
we didn’t have when we were young.
所以我鼓励所有家长
And so I encourage all the parents out there
继续为你们的学生和孩子提供所有支持
to continue providing all the support to your students and to your children,
给予他们这些大好机会
giving them these great opportunities
让他们将来获得非常大的成功和收获
to be very very successful and prosperous in the future.
非常感谢您接受采访
Thank you so much for taking the interview.
很荣幸能再次请到您
It’s a real honor to have you back.
谢谢 很高兴再次见到你
Thank you. Good to see you. All right.
